My second T4, operation de-chav

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Only 17s I have are the wolfrace that are on the van at the mo. If you decide to go banded you'll need Vito 17s

Yeah seen some with a nice big offset (need big offset to flip the rim) but too much of a radius on the face can foul the front edge of the calipers, the rim itself will clear. Your 16s would have just fitted but the rear of the face of the wheel hit the caliper.

Don't really want to sell the 16s, bought them new so stand me at £400 ish with the tyres

No worries.

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How about these Reg?

Had them on T4 no 1 (just about)



- nice wheels but as I've been there already and they are too similar to what I already have (but not as nice) I'll give them a miss

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Borg and beck HKF1016?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HKF1016-BO...19.m1438.l2649

Or £193 but also land rover????

http://www.totalparts.co.uk/first-li...wheel-kit.html

Same thing marketed by national £187

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CK9967F-NA...-/332391328383

It's a 228mm plate

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Had them on T4 no 1 (just about)

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- nice wheels but as I've been there already and they are too similar to what I already have (but not as nice) I'll give them a miss

Nope these are nicer than van 1's with a wider spoke and the centre is larger plus the offset widths would work nicely....

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Borg and beck HKF1016?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HKF1016-BO...19.m1438.l2649

Yep seen this but its a 220mm kit? Plus there's no performance clutch disk upgrade for the 220mm flywheel other than the Sachs SRE rip-off kit!

Have you loaded the detuned map?

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TTV produce an 8 bolt D5252T 240mm/28 SMF and a 228mm/28 VAG 6 bolt SMF.
They do a lot of reverse engineering so I'm backing this as my way forward, that gives us a ton of plate and pressure plate upgrade options.
Plus its reusable in the potential upgrade gearboxes 02M etc.

The Mk1 TTs 150/180 were using a 228mm28 6 bolt in an 02M gearbox.

VW/Audi 02M gearbox adaptor plate but for a Renault F4R, F7P, F7R or C1J engine block.
http://www.efi-parts.co.uk/index.php?productID=346

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Yep seen this but its a 220mm kit, and there's no performance clutch disk upgrade for the 220mm flywheel other than the Sachs SRE rip-off kit!

Have you loaded the detuned map?

My sources say 228 - at least for the national and comline versions

Still on power map and wearing light shoes.

Whats the spec/cost on the TTV options - I've a week off second week of Feb and will do the swap then so need to order by the end of next week.

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Borg and beck HKF1016?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HKF1016-BO...19.m1438.l2649

Or £193 but also land rover????

http://www.totalparts.co.uk/first-li...wheel-kit.html

Same thing marketed by national £187

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CK9967F-NA...-/332391328383

It's a 228mm plate

Go for it Reg,
I've just ran my airmass calculator on your map and its 199bhp & 365ft/lb torque / 146KW & 495Nm.

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My sources say 228 - at least for the national and comline versions

Still on power map and wearing light shoes.

Whats the spec/cost on the TTV options - I've a week off second week of Feb and will do the swap then so need to order by the end of next week.

If its 228mm then great but its still designed for 65KW / 88bhp max, not 146KW / 199bhp - whats the contact area on these?
Made in China.....

I have no idea on the cost from TTV but I've specced it to 600Nm Stage 2 , and a 800Nm Stage 3.

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Go for it Reg,
I've just ran my airmass calculator on your map and its 199bhp & 365ft/lb torque / 146KW & 495Nm.

I could get an electric turbocharger from ebay that should push it over the magic 200 figure.

If its 228mm then great but its still designed for 65KW / 88bhp max, not 146KW / 199bhp - whats the contact area on these - 6 teeth?
Made in China.....

China! oh god no, internet law says it'll be rubbish then.

6 teeth?

It's a borg and beck even if it can't take the strain - I'd at least have a flywheel that I could fit a fast road/kevlar clutch and HD pressure plate too. At least in theory - the same as the theory you had for the valeo option?
Tempted to buy the techniclutch fast road setup at the same time and see if the two will fit.

Let me know if to get any info regarding the TTV option.

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I could get an electric turbocharger from ebay that should push it over the magic 200 figure.

we haven't tweaked it yet as your clutch has given up the ghost.

China! oh god no, internet law says it'll be rubbish then.

Nope I'm not saying its rubbish but I know that the metals used can be weaker.
It will do the job to say +30% bhp/torque, but 120% over design?

It's a borg and beck even if it can't take the strain - I'd at least have a flywheel that I could fit a fast road/kevlar clutch and HD pressure plate too.
At least in theory - the same as the theory you had for the valeo option?

Agreed its a way forward. Why not just buy a 228mm flywheel then rather than the complete kit?
Thought you had the VAG pn#?
At least the clutch and pressure plate will be up to spec.

Tempted to buy the techniclutch fast road setup at the same time and see if the two will fit.

It s branded differently in the US, and a lot cheaper. Mixed reports on the quality going back to 2012.

Let me know if to get any info regarding the TTV option.

Will do.

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Borg & Beck,
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Borg-Beck...UAAOSwx6pYsEWa

£203.63 incl del.

National
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SOLID-MASS...QAAOSwuWJZf0OC

£177.12 incl del.

[regcheeseman]

we haven't tweaked it yet as your clutch has given up the ghost.


Nope I'm not saying its rubbish but I know that the metals used can be weaker.
It will do the job to say +30% bhp/torque, but 120% over design?

Agreed its a way forward. Why not just buy a 228mm flywheel then rather than the complete kit?
Thought you had the VAG pn#?
At least the clutch and pressure plate will be up to spec.

It s branded differently in the US, and a lot cheaper. Mixed reports on the quality going back to 2012.

Will do.

The comment re chinese manufacture was tongue in cheek, I'd take a part made in china all day long in preference to anything from italy or the US

It's a lump of metal, it'll be fine.

Cannot buy a flywheel on it's own - the VAG 2.4D one is unobtanium

Borg & Beck,
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Borg-Beck...UAAOSwx6pYsEWa

£203.63 incl del.

National
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SOLID-MASS...QAAOSwuWJZf0OC

£177.12 incl del.

Cheers!

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The comment re chinese manufacture was tongue in cheek, I'd take a part made in china all day long in preference to anything from italy or the US

It's a lump of metal, it'll be fine.

Cannot buy a flywheel on it's own - the VAG 2.4D one is unobtanium

Cheers!

Do you know if there's enough room in the bell housings to fit a 240mm SMF? Both the Volvo D5252T and AEL used 240mm/28 with their respective gearboxes.

TPS quoted me a flywheel on exchange this morning (don't need an identical swap![emoji6]). 2 in the UK for next day delivery £88 & £477 for the complete clutch.

Its Borg & Beck then , I think they're rebranding according to their website so it may be old packaged stock.

Sent by ORANGE is the NEW BLACK

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Found these to upgrade the Borg & Beck SMF Kit...

Stage 1 £23.66 + £10 delivery
JDK VOLKSWAGEN JETTA GOLF PASSAT VR6 STAGE1 PERFORMANCE CLUTCH DISC 228mm 28SP
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JDK-VOLKS...YAAOSwScdZ1o4I

Stage 2 £25 + £10 delivery
JDK JETTA GOLF PASSAT CORRADO STAGE2 PERFORMANCE CLUTCH DISC 2.8L VR6 6CYL 228mm
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JDK-JETTA...wAAOSwLdNZ1pBZ

Stage 3 £32.35 + £10 delivery
JDK VW JETTA GOLF 2.8L VR6 STAGE3 PERFORMANCE RACE CLUTCH DISC 6CYL 228mm 28SP
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JDK-VW-JE...EAAOSw~oFZ1pEh

Stage 4 £38.64 + £10 delivery
JDK VW JETTA GOLF PASSAT VR6 STAGE4 PERFORMANCE RACE CLUTCH DISC 6CYL 28SP 228mm
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JDK-VW-JE...-/273041468160

Stage RACE £48.52 + £15 delivery
JDK VW JETTA GOLF 2.8L VR6 DUAL FRICTION PERFORMANCE RACE CLUTCH DISC 28SP 228mm
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JDK-VW-JE...0AAOSwZcZZ1pNF

Plus import taxes about £18'ish.

Haven't read through all the individual adverts , but 100% feedback and some decent T&C's.