My second T4, operation de-chav

[Activ8]

0 fucks given.


Righto clutches.

6 hrs ago single mass was the way to go

2hrs ago I had to have a DMF instead

Now I think I need a single mass 2.4 flywheel and a vr6 clutch

Unless I can find a 02g conversion anywhere.

Whats your thinking behind the above?

[regcheeseman]

I think Topran are a German eBay resellers brand.

Familiar with topran, their stuff is up to par, didn't know they did nozzles

Righto clutches.

6 hrs ago single mass was the way to go

2hrs ago I had to have a DMF instead

Now I think I need a single mass 2.4 flywheel and a vr6 clutch

Unless I can find a 02g conversion anywhere.

Whats your thinking behind the above?

Old age and wisdom said "always bin the DMF"

The internet said DMF - because vibration noise etc

Someone on the internet made a point based on actual experience and knowledge and said - 2.4 T4 flywheel and VR6 plate


But then, as the box is coming out, why not replace it now for a stronger one rather than shelling out for a clutch then having to get an upgrade gearbox and another clutch to suit

[Activ8]

Have you looked at the Volvo gearbox M56L2 if you're looking at the 02G, cheaper outright but I'm unsure what other mods are required.
I must admit I haven't looked any further than the price.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-V70...-/252679152120 £90!



http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/tech/S70...ations1997.pdf

Transmission name: M56

Type: 5 speed manual
Manufacturer: Koping Engineering, AB Volvo
Gear ratios: (1) 3.38:1 (2) 1.90:1 (3) 1.19:1 (4) 0.87:1 (5) 0.70:1
Notes: Fully synchronized, transaxle for FWD. [GRIMSHAW96], [GRIMSHAW99] [VOLVO]
Cars that use this transmission: (1992 850 GLT (Sweden)) (1993 850 GLE (Sweden)) (1993 850 GLT) (1994 850 GL/SE (Sweden)) (1994 850 Base) (1995 850 Base/GLT) (1995 850 S/SE 2.0 Sweden) (1995 850 S/SE 2.5 Sweden) (1995 850 GLE) (1995 850 Turbo) (1996 850 Base/GLT) (1996 850 S/SE 2.0 Sweden) (1996 850 S/SE (Sweden)) (1996 850 GLE) (1996 850 Turbo) (1997 850 S/SE 2.0 Sweden) (1997 850 S/SE 2.5 Sweden) (1997 850 Base) (1997 850 GLT) (1997 850 R (Can)) (1997 850 T-5) (1997 850 AWD (Sweden)) (1997 850 TDI (Sweden)) (1997 S40/V40 T4) (1998 S40/V40 2.0T) (1998 S40/V40 T4) (1998 S70/V70 Base) (1998 S70/V70 GL (USA)) (1998 S70/V70 T-5) (1999 S40/V40 2.0T) (1999 S40/V40 T4) (1999 S70/V70 Base) (1999 S70/V70 T-5) (2000 S40/V40 2.0T) (2000 S40/V40 T4) (2001 S40/V40 2.0T) (2001 S40/V40 T4) (2001 S60 2.4) (2001 S60 T5) (2001 V70 2.4) (2001 V70 T5) (2002 S40/V40 2.0T) (2002 S40/V40 T4) (2002 S60 2.4) (2002 S60 2.4T) (2002 S60 AWD) (2002 S60 T5) (2002 V70 2.4) (2002 V70 2.4T) (2002 V70 AWD) (2002 V70 T5) (2002 V70 XC AWD) (2003 S60 2.4) (2003 S60 T5) (2003 V70 2.4) (2003 V70 T5) (2004 S60 2.4) (2004 S60 2.5T) (2004 S60 T5) (2004 V70 2.4) (2004 V70 T5) (2005 S60 2.4) (2005 S60 2.5T) (2005 S60 T5) (2005 V70 2.4) (2006 S60 2.5T) (2006 S60 T5) (2006 V70 2.4) (2007 S60 2.5T) (2007 S60 T5) (2007 V70 2.4) (2008 S60 2.5T) (2008 S60 T5) (2009 S60 2.5T) (2009 S60 T5) (2011 C60 T5)

VW T4 ACV from Austria £645 delivered! Yikes...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/gearbox-VW...3.m-1#shpCntId

[regcheeseman]

Surely the outputs will be in totally the wrong place? The T4 engine is pretty unique in being canted forward in the bay meaning the bell housing is nearly 45 degrees clocked when compared to the car gearboxes.

But it would be an option otherwise

[Activ8]

Surely the outputs will be in totally the wrong place? The T4 engine is pretty unique in being canted forward in the bay meaning the bell housing is nearly 45 degrees clocked when compared to the car gearboxes.

But it would be an option otherwise

But at £50-£100 for the M56L2 would that not be a good starting point to build an adaptor plate / adaptors and mounts?

The guy who bought JonR6's TT engined T4 went through 3-4 02B gearboxes before it was beefed up sufficiently.
He never responded to any gearbox questions, but there was mention of the specific weakness in his video blogs.
May be d-9 has something to add (he's running a 1.8T?).

[tommo1366]

The future's bright.....

Had a girlfriend once nicknamed that.


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[Dave Sausages]

My opinion on smf/dmf is that some engine codes run both over different years, when I was researching the ahu I couldn't find a definitive answer on whether my donor car ran one or the other. I know how much you love darkside, but the one thing that feels bloody lovely and works spot on is the clutch, so imo just go for a decent smf

[S49]

Personally I don't like DMF's have done a few of clutchs with a solid flywheel kit and had no problems. Just a bit old fashioned me.

[Activ8]

My opinion on smf/dmf is that some engine codes run both over different years, when I was researching the ahu I couldn't find a definitive answer on whether my donor car ran one or the other. I know how much you love darkside, but the one thing that feels bloody lovely and works spot on is the clutch, so imo just go for a decent smf

So what exactly are you now running Sausages? Supplied by Darkside? Those guys have really done some experimenting over the years and a very good sounding board.

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[Dave Sausages]

I have the g60/vr6 balanced smooth anti vibration blah blah blah standard weight flywheel with Sachs plates

[regcheeseman]

He has a standard hd clutch kit with scene tax and a stupid flywheel with no timing marks.

Techniclutch have been good for me In the past. Not found a flywheel yet to go with the fast road kevlar set up.

[Dave Sausages]

Works well though

[regcheeseman]

Works well though

Yep I'm sure it does.

I'm just sceptical about any of these 'performance upgrade' items bought from online places like heritage and if they are actually any different from the same thing from a car parts suppliers - not sure they have the buying power to commission bespoke products?

[Dave Sausages]

Trouble I had when buying it was the choice I had was darkside or non descript eBay stuff that I wasn't sure I could trust. Local motor factors were next to useless as per usual

[Activ8]

I've sent a few emails out to various users / T4 contacts running my maps. Zero have had clutch or fly wheel upgrades and reporting no clutch slippage or gearbox problems the oldest install being 20 months ago. Colin01332 has had the most powerful map with K14 install. Similar to yours New Reg, (other than using my OEM TMIC) albeit he's now reporting blowing & splitting cheap 2 ply ebay silicon hoses on mikalor clamps! He's running a rebuilt 02B, LUK clutch and DMF (done 2 years ago long b4 we met and installed tur bo and map) without slippage or failure. Reckons he wants to go a step further! So we're planning some upgrades in for next week. I trust his feedback as he's been a mechanic since apprenticeship at 16 & knows his stuff! "Just sh1t with electronics, sensors and 'modern rubbish'". Hmmm I've heard that somewhere else!?

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