For reference - heres a couple of pictures of Hans' VR6 [emoji106] with the 313mm fronts (prepaint upgrade) and his 9j x 19" rim.
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You can check which master cylinder and brakes you have fitted by looking at the fuse box plate. See pic. Left = front , Right = Rear
The platform with the van specs shows the front setup and rear as codes, here's the front;
PR-1LU is the code for the 25.4mm master cylinder (with and without ABS).
PR-1LE is the code for 23mm master cylinder
PR-1LP is the code for 23mm master cylinder
PR-1LB is the code for 25.4mm master cylinder
PR-1LU+ is the code for 25.4mm master cylinder
PR-1AT+ is the code for 25.4mm master cylinder
The codes reflect different setups , such as ESP / ABS / Diff. Lock / & others!
For 300mm & 313mm front calipers it's recommended to use the larger 25.4mm master cylinder.
23mm = 7M1 611 019 / 7M0 611 019
25.4mm = 7D0 611 019 / A / B (there are various 2 or 4 port options & sizes, so check beforehand.)
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My 345s will fit under a 17 - they'll also fit under a 16 and possibly a 15.....
It's the issue with the back of the wheel hitting the face of the caliper and you'll get that with a lot of alloys with positive ETs and some dish - it's not solely about the dish so there's another to watch out for.
The merc calipers are much more compact and better looking - the sharan caliper is nasty.
Hmmmmm - could you run a standard caliper with 345/330 discs and just an adaptor plate....that'd be cheap and easy diy.......
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The V6 caliper is a little industrial to be polite but an OEM solution none-the-less. Sharan calipers behind a full / closed wheel wouldn't be seen.
You mean extend the existing carrier , possible - depends on finding suitably shaped pads to suit the disc and caliper housing plus standard 280mm calipers are a little thin for the larger/thicker diameter disc aren't they?
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Spacing the original caliper out on a 330mm disc. The lower hat height of the disc would take the caliper 13.6mm further out giving space for an adaptor to mount the carrier. Like this
https://goo.gl/images/EMvQUC
But with the caliper bolted to the otherside of the bracket. GLast edited by lister; 11 December 2018, 09:16 PM.
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Originally posted by lister View PostSpacing the original caliper out on a 330mm disc. The lower hat height of the disc would take the caliper 13.6mm further out giving space for an adaptor to mount the carrier. Like this
https://goo.gl/images/EMvQUC
But with the caliper bolted to the otherside of the bracket. G
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Loads. They have been sat in boxes beside my bench in work for the past 6+ months waiting for me to start. Calipers have been rebuilt but require paint. Hub has been modified. Need to make an adaptor like Reg did. Going to make a start after christmas as the discs on my van will require replacing soon.
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Originally posted by lister View PostLoads. They have been sat in boxes beside my bench in work for the past 6+ months waiting for me to start. Calipers have been rebuilt but require paint. Hub has been modified. Need to make an adaptor like Reg did. Going to make a start after christmas as the discs on my van will require replacing soon.
Thanks for the advice and info.
I'm sticking with plan A and initially upgrading to 313mm VR6 units. I've bought a few front sets now.
Just having a look at the Mercedes calipers, theres a ton of Mercs that use the 25.4mm master cylinder, so a great choice for the calipers.
The ML route has such a broad cost effective power range to choose from too.
MERCEDES-BENZ M-Class (W163) (Year of Construction 02.1998 - 06.2005, 150 - 347 PS, Diesel, Petrol)
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Originally posted by lister View PostSpacing the original caliper out on a 330mm disc. The lower hat height of the disc would take the caliper 13.6mm further out giving space for an adaptor to mount the carrier. Like this
https://goo.gl/images/EMvQUC
But with the caliper bolted to the otherside of the bracket. G
Got to be careful as the lower bell height can push the caliper towards the rear of the wheel centre
Oh and the google image is not a great example - if you are fortunate to have that nice 0 offset between mountings you should run two thinner plates (one each side of the mounting) rather than one thick one plate.
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