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  • #61
    These are going to look great when they are done.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by DannyMontez View Post
      These are going to look great when they are done.


      Not just great looking Danny .......... but I think most people will be very surprised by their performance. They may only be Halogen, but the lighting performance of these little Hella units are just amazing I think. As an example, the 'Premium' range high beam has a range of 150 meters ......... that's 500 feet !





      Here's my plan - T4 Quad headlight options that will be available .......


      Classic Series - with H7 bulbs
      Performance Series - with H1 bulbs
      Performance 100 Series - with H1 bulbs
      Premium Series ​( Bi-Halogen ) - with H7 bulbs


      The 'H' in any bulb simply denotes that it's Halogen. Maybe at a later date I'll look into Xenon lighting, but you are looking at a major expense if you decide to go down that route. Not only are the units with ballasts very expensive, you also have to install a headlight washer system and a headlight levelling system.


      Customers will also have the option of which light bulbs they would like. I've done extensive research in that area, and without a doubt the best available is what I will supply, so everything will be in stock. The way I see it, it makes no sense in having top quality Hella light units if you're simply going to plug them into your OE wiring ( which we all know by now, is the route of the problem ), so a cleverly designed uprated wiring loom coupled with high power bulbs, will also be available.


      Bulb options will be;


      Philips X-Treme - H7 or H1 - up to 130% brighter than standard headlight bulbs
      Philips WhiteVision - H7 or H1 - not yellowish like Halogen bulbs, more like pure white Xenon bulbs @ 4300K
      Philips EcoVision - H7 or H1 - perhaps the longest lasting 'power bulb' on the market but still very bright, lasts up to x4 longer. Best of both worlds




      All the options will have the 'Tourist Solution', so switchable RHD to LHD for when you go on holiday abroad. No ridiculous sticky things on your headlights, you simply rotate the headlight units round to change the beam pattern, a job done in five minutes. On your return from your hols, simply rotate the beam back for UK use






      TURK
      Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
      And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
      The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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      • #63
        These are sounding better and betterer with each of your updates Turk!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Mr Nozzle View Post
          These are sounding better and betterer with each of your updates Turk!


          Yeah, thanks MrNozzle few surprises in the pipeline as well !


          Just working on a couple of sets at the moment ........ Classic's and Premiums >>






          And just look at these little beauties ....... Hella Bi-Halogen's. The units incorporate a Low beam and a High beam, it does this via a motorised shield that moves out of the way when you turn on your High beams. So in High beam ........ all four headlight units are ON !

          And in the works is the H9 bulb mod as well ! so 2100 lumens as opposed to 1500 lumens >>








          TURK
          Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
          And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
          The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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          • #65
            Hello Turk, looks like the project is coming along nicely... I also followed you on that other site. Did you ever do the T4 calendar?

            Anyway, I'm still up for a set of these lights...

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            • #66
              Hi Snowrider,



              Yeah, getting there ........... new issues to sort out though, when it comes to the ultimate positioning of the inboard headlight units, I'm looking at mere millimetres to get them just right. But that means having to rebuild the moulds completely. I must get this right, this is the complicated bit ......... get this bit right and the fabrication of the parts will be so much easier for me.


              The T4 Calender, although praised as an excellent idea at the beginning ........... somehow just fizzled out unfortunately. I think there were also some Um's & Ar's when it came to pricing ! > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthrea...=turk+calender



              I hope Dan get's a better response on here for his, as he's just started one also > http://just-t4s.co.uk/showthread.php?1214-2017-Calendar



              There'll always be a set of Quad Headlight waiting for you Snowrider ........... your biggest decision will be, which option to go for !?








              TURK
              Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
              And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
              The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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              • #67
                Premium WhiteVision.... why have anything else?

                (DAMN these updates are getting exciting now!)
                BONGO FURY - 222bhp - 390lb/ft - 16.7064 1/4
                Are you quick enough for the T17.club?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by slimjim View Post
                  Premium WhiteVision.... why have anything else?

                  Yeah I know, that's probably what I'll be using myself .......... it's always nice to have just a bit more power ( illumination ) but that comes with a cost unfortunately. I'll have to dig out my Philips bulb tech stuff out to confirm the figures, but the high power bulbs will burn out quicker, meaning you'll be replacing your headlight bulbs every year ! which you should be doing anyway ! But I think that could become a little tedious after a while. The 'White Vision' bulbs are certainly a good compromise.

                  DAMN these updates are getting exciting now!

                  Just imagine actually working on a project such as this then Jim .......... I'm excited every time I step into my workshop ! just love being in there working on new projects. Issues and problems are what I thrive on ........ can't wait to get stuck-in and try something that' not been done before. I did manage to damage my plug the other day unfortunately but the moulds are prototypes anyway, and I got what I wanted in the end. One of the questions that had been bothering me has definitely been answered ........ 'male' mould or 'female' mould ? and just as I suspected, the structural integrity of the part produced by a 'male' mould is absolutely amazing.

                  Yesterday, I was actually standing on it ! Yup, standing on a plastic headlight bracket ! ( it didn't even buckle ) If the completed parts for the headlight mounting brackets can support my weight ....... they'll certainly support the weight of two Hella headlight units. And the added benefit, no vibrations





                  TURK
                  Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
                  And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
                  The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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                  • #69
                    Is this your main job Turk or just a hobby?


                    Sent from my iPhone using Just T4s

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Jonnybigballs85 View Post
                      Is this your main job Turk or just a hobby?
                      The 'Lazy git' is retired ...
                      BONGO FURY - 222bhp - 390lb/ft - 16.7064 1/4
                      Are you quick enough for the T17.club?

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by slimjim View Post
                        The 'Lazy git' is retired ...


                        Yup ......... took early retirement ( very early ), I just got tired of working for A. Holes !

                        Strictly speaking it is a hobby, what began as me wanting decent headlight for my T4 has just grown, so why not share !? It certainly isn't a full time occupation that'll make me piles of money. Making loads of cash so I can live the high life isn't what motivates me, If I can make enough money by selling one set of custom made headlights, enough to buy more materials in order to make another set, that'll do me.

                        To make this a profitable business, I would have to sell the quad headlights at a much higher expected price of £500 that's partly the reason why there are no manufacturers selling top quality headlights for the T4, they're too interested in making massive amounts of profits. So you'll never actually get rich making stuff like this. Just take a look at what is available for the T4, right now the only available option besides the OE headlights ( short nose or long nose ) are those DRL LED type headlights. And they are truly what they are .......... designed and manufactured to a price, which results in 'cheap garbage' !!! poor lighting performance, very bad build quality and a very poor life expectancy. And at two to three hundred quid a pop .......... a waste of money.


                        To emphasise the need for the 'Quad Headlight Project' only boils down to one thing really, and I've thought about this many times ...... As T4 enthusiasts, we can improve our vans in every single way imaginable, all conceivable engine mods, stainless exhaust system, uprate the suspension, we have the choice of a myriad of wheel and tyre packages, you can personalise your van even further, inside and out, but one thing we can't do right now is ......... to see better while driving at night !


                        I've even heard from some people saying "Well, we don't really drive at night" ......... that' not the point. Good illumination is also required in poor weather conditions, that also happen during daylight hours. It's as important to be seen in bad weather as it is to see where you're going at night.






                        TURK
                        Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
                        And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
                        The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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                        • #72
                          I feel sorry for all the people that have bought them garbage lights and to be honest they look shite anyways, old vehicle with led looks stupid it just doesn't look right.
                          so turk hurry up with these lights before light specs change and you have to start all over again lol

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by jaymarley View Post
                            I feel sorry for all the people that have bought them garbage lights and to be honest they look shite anyways, old vehicle with led looks stupid it just doesn't look right.
                            so turk hurry up with these lights before light specs change and you have to start all over again lol


                            I was one of those poor unfortunates that wasted best part of £375 on those stupid Audi DRL type headlights .......... as I'd been told were better than the T4's poor OE headlights

                            ......... 'Before the lighting specs change' !? ........ you expecting a change in the EU regs ? not going to happen Jay. If anything will change in future years, I see Xenon lighting being phased out, and LED lighting with AFS ( Intelligent Adaptive Front-lighting System ) such as the 'Vario' system developed by Hella being the norm for manufacturers. But Halogen being around for a very long time yet. There comes a point where too much lighting ( such as xenon ) is too dangerous, even more dangerous than very poor lighting, as a very bright light source just blinds all road users. LED systems on the other hand are controllable via their AFS systems, so dim in various areas thus not blinding to oncoming traffic.

                            A well designed Halogen system that's powered adequately will produce very good light, I'm almost at the maximum allowable LUX allowed by UNECE regs as it is. Basically, anything brighter than 2000 Lumens ( such as HID ) requires a headlight levelling system to be installed. There are a lot of factors governing headlight design, what's permissible , what isn't ......... if it were a free for all, we'd all be running 100 watt bulbs ! My way of thinking was, instead of illuminating the entire countryside with over over 2,000 luminance flux, that I would go for quality units that concentrate that lighting into the area of importance ............. that being the road ahead​ !










                            TURK
                            Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
                            And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
                            The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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                            • #74
                              Hi folks,


                              Welcome to another update to my T4 quad headlight project.

                              I left you all last time with a prototype fitting that went quite well, the previous prototypes of the headlight mounting brackets helped me to gather more important measurements, with each fitting the measurements were getting fine tuned, now I'm down to mere millimetres ........ all this leading to the next phase of the design. I can't stress enough the importance of getting these final measurements correct, the correct alignment and positioning of the units now confirmed as it were, also means that the completed quad headlights will look very different from the headlights seen below >>




                              One of my biggest concerns when the headlight assemblies were installed, could I easily adjust the headlight beams. Obviously a big problem if the headlights don't conform to EU regulations, as headlights must be adjustable. As difficult as it was to install two headlight units side-by-side, in a hole originally designed for only one headlight unit was, I now had the problem that I couldn't get to some of the adjuster screws. How far forward or backward the units sat at, and how far over the inboard unit was made a huge difference. You could be talking about a mere 5mm, but that's the difference between the entire system working or not.

                              Here's the problem - this is the offside headlight assembly. As you can clearly see the adjuster screws can't be accessed >>








                              ** Sorry guys ......... I'm going to switch to hot linking images from a server, as this 'importing photos from computer' thing isn't working ! ........ it keeps on wanting to resize my photos





                              Back soon





                              TURK
                              Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
                              And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
                              The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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                              • #75
                                What an archaic system ! ......... one of the images I imported is now seen as an 'attachment' !


                                A typical example of complicating something that is in reality very simple.




                                Nightmare comes to mind !









                                TURK
                                Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
                                And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
                                The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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