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    Lulu DIY build thread ........ The unconventional way !

    Hi all,


    I think it's about time I shared my van' conversion over here as well ........ I'm not really into a full blown camper, kitchen sink gas cooker night storage heaters and what not, just a 'weekender' is what I'm looking for. So, without further a due ....... copied from the 'other' site, hope it helps new members here decide what they need, what's not required and how to do it basically

    I know there's lots of build threads around, but everybody has a different way of doing things, and how you intend to use your van maybe different than other people. And of course there's always the cost implications ........ I chose to do mine on a budget, which doesn't necessarily mean on the cheap, but to spend my money wisely ......... big investments in the important things like the auxiliary power and electrics. Other stuff you just seek alternatives, and try and save as much as possible on stuff not really necessary.


    As I have been gathering information these last couple of years, after having purchased my second T4, I thought I had better start a build thread as some of this information may be invaluable to some. My experiences, good and bad ( and screw-ups ) will also be included. Some may learn from my mistakes. I apologise in advance for some of my ramblings, and the many many pictures.

    A quick explanation .... I had at the time a 1.9TD, great runner, solid, but no 'oompth' if you know what I mean.
    That was about the time I joined this great Forum. And become part of something that would take over my life ........ for the better I may add

    After reading just about everything I could get my hands on, I quickly realised ( and it made great sense to me ) that the 2.5 Turbo Diesel 5 cylinder was the one for me. So my search begin. As I'm in Jersey in the Channel Islands this could be difficult. But I was prepared to travel for the right vehicle. So I carried on plodding around Jersey in my 1.9TD with my head full of ideas, and a stack of money waiting to be spent !

    Then one fine day ....... I saw her !

    I made contact with the seller, and agreed to view the van that evening after work. He wanted waaaaayyyyyy too much cash for her. So I told him I'd sleep on it. SLEEP ....... not on your life. I didn't get any sleep as I was so afraid that he would sell her the following day. So the following day I went for another viewing and we went for a spin. I was smitten the difference was amazing. It didn't even drive like a van, these are comparable to some fine cars.

    So the haggling began ...... it went on for a while ( as you do ) he just wouldn't budge ........ then I flashed the cash ! never fails that one

    The price and terms were agreed, I was now the proud owner of a SWB 2003 2.5TDi 88BHP factory standard ( but we can always do something about that later ...... as I'd learned from reading posts on this forum ).



    Here's what she looked like when I first went to view her the first evening >>







    And a couple of days later after all the red tape had been taken care of. Parked up next to my 1.9D >>







    The interior pretty much the same dull boring grey as my 1.9TD. First thing I got to do is get rid of the awful steering wheel >>







    A few days driving around around in 'Lulu', a well suited name I thought. I had a smile from ear to ear. Most of my mates and work colleagues agreed she was a beauty ...... but why the 'wallpaper' !? Seeing the picture again, reminds me of why they used to say that.
    And besides, flowers are for girls ! >>







    Looking inside told me I had a lot of work to do >>







    I didn't rate his woodworking skills too much, but as a surfer, I know he would probably prefer to hit the waves. So it would all have to come out >>







    The all important 2.5TDi - all in great shape, no records of anything though ! ...... why are people so bad at keeping records !?
    It's good practise to type a purchase agreement, I've been doing this for years with second hand cars and motorbikes. If they refuse to sign it, they may have something to hide ....... just walk away. >>







    She also came with some very posh 18" alloys ..... Porsche I was told at the time ...... later found out they're not >>







    First phase of the operation was to swap out all my recent purchases from my 1.9D, my creature comforts such as bucket seats, Momo sports steering wheel, the DRL type headlights I would do that another time. I was like a proud dad that particular day with my two siblings >>







    In order for my Momo steering wheel and boss to function correctly ( ie, indicator cancelling ), I cut a piece off an aluminium pipe and glued it onto the original indicator cancelling tab that was too short. >>







    This close up shows the indicator cancelling tab in the OFF position ( the little white tab to the right ) >>







    This close up shows the tab sticking out ( indicator ON ) so when you straighten the steering wheel back up, the tab on the steering boss makes contact with that, and cancels your indicator, pretty straight forward really. >>







    And the extended cancelling tab on the steering wheel boss >>







    As I had the intention of installing some electrics in my doors, I wasn't going to leave my door bellows behind ..... not at 15 quid a piece ! >>







    The smaller of the two ends goes between the two body panels, and come out underneath where the fuse box is located >>







    Then the fatter end 'plugs' into the door. >>







    My bucket seats in, and most of the 'fire wood' removed. >>







    I dread to think what I could find behind those panels ! >>







    Well, she's insulated ...... it's that horrid stuff they used to use in the building game. You don't want to be breathing this stuff in, or even let it make contact with your skin. Nothing worse than fiberglass dust in your lungs ! >>







    After donning my breathing mask, I continued the demolition ( quite satisfying actually ). Well, this stuff was all over the place.
    Must of been warm as toast in here ! >>







    Behind all the loft insulation I found some ply panels glued to the metal van panels ! >>







    Bit more cleaning up, and checking for rust. >>







    And yet more of that god damn insulation in the roof. >>







    He wasn't shy in using glue either by the looks of things >>







    OK, that's just about everything out, Bit more cleaning and close inspection of various body panels, and I can start thinking about my personal build >>







    Loads more to follow boys n gals.








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    And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
    The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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    Thanks Jonny, glad you enjoyed that

    Baring in mind I wrote that lot out about three years ago, there's loads more to upload yet ....... maybe somebody will find something interesting. Or even motivate some to get off their butts and so something to their vans !



    As mentioned in my previous post my goal is for a 'weekend' van, so no 240 volt, no gas cooker, no kitchen sink. In fact, cooking inside any vehicle will only multiply the condensation problem ten fold. Any cooking will be done from the rear of the van under the tailgate. As I intend to design a sliding 'kitchenette' from under the rear seats.


    Two Audio systems to be run off leisure battery ( front & rear ).
    Amp running rear system ( powered from leisure battery ).
    13 speakers in all ( including sub ).
    Battery condition via digital volt meters.
    Still trying to work out whether it's feasible to install an Amp meter for leisure battery.
    LED's in doors to illuminate door handles at night.
    Door open warning LED' in doors.
    Security alarm with proximity sensors.
    Rear view camera ( that will double up as rear view mirror ) as I'm going to build a bulkhead to incorporate all the electrics.
    Monitor for rear view camera & rear view mirror.
    All lighting in rear will be LED's, second lighting system will be 'mood lighting'.
    Large 12v flat screen television.
    Multi media system run off Raspberry Pi with solid state drive as storage. - Movies - MP3's - may look at GPS at a later date.


    As we all know, space is at a premium in T4's, particularly the short wheel base. This can be done, if the space is used intelligently. With all those gadgets, gizmo's, knobs and switches to install, designing a roof console to accommodate most of those electrics, now sounds like a good idea. As you will run out of space on the dash very quickly.


    So for my first project, I have to mark out the position of the roof console. In my book, much more practical than a sunroof. You want fresh air .....
    wind the window down


    I need to get the dimensions of the roof console, so I can make a mock-up of it in cardboard.
    I'll set that aside as my evening project. >>







    During daylight hours I'll concentrate on the van interior. Everything cleaned up real well. Well pleased, not rust at all >>







    As my bulkhead will sit on top of the floor, I've got to get the floor in first. So I used the original floor boards the previous owner had, as a template. As I won't be using 25mm ply, I'll be using 12mm ply. An important thing to consider when doing a conversion of any type, is the amount of weight you're going to add to your vehicle. Keep everything as light as possible, without losing the rigidity of the furniture fittings. As an example, by using 12mm ply for the flooring, I gained in the region of 20 kilos ! Every bit you save, will make a big difference in the end. Too much weight gained, and your performance and fuel economy will suffer.


    Before I began installing anything, I took Lulu to the local dump as they have a weigh bridge there. Totally gutted out, a full tank of fuel plus spare wheel and me = 1,653 Kilos


    It'll be interesting to see what she weighs when I'm finished.


    So here's the first board cut to size. I had no option than to go right across, Joining the two section floor would be awkward.
    As there's bound to be some flex, and I don't have a biscuit joiner >>







    As I was cutting wood with my plunge cutter using a straight edge, I took the opportunity to prepare some slats that I would use as ribs for my bulkhead >>







    OK, both fit like a glove. See what I mean by the join in the middle. Ordering a larger sheet of ply in Jersey wasn't an option unfortunately. If you can, do it in one sheet. >>







    I measured slightly larger, so when it came to fitting the floorboards. I would push down firmly. No screws or glue needed. But first I have to insulate >>







    Here's what I'm going to use, it's a wool and fibre mixture that upholsterers use. I'm not suggesting you rush out and buy this, but this is the way I chose to do it, only time will tell if it works. Some of you will say it'll soak up moisture like a sponge. You may be right, but my way of thinking, condensation will cause the moisture. But if it's 'aired' and is allowed to breath, there won't be any condensation ....... in theory I: >>







    I'll be creating a sandwich with laminate flooring underlay, great for sound proofing >>







    OK, so I got the first section down >>







    Final section going in >>







    Entire floor done, now I can lay down my ply flooring I prepared earlier >>







    Now I got my floor in, I can measure up for the ribs that will make up the bulkhead. I also put both my seats back in, and fully adjusted right back. I can now see the curvature behind the seats. I can't go back any further as I'm already obstructing the sliding door entry. but I have a cunning plan ! >>







    Viewed from the back of the van, I can now see where the compartment door will be, not very wide ! ....... but nether am I I:

    You will have noticed that I moved the rib forward by 8cm to be on the safe side, and there's still quite a bit of travel on the seats. >>







    My other project 'The roof console' had been coming along just great, so I installed that on a temporary basis. As it has to but up to the bulkhead on the cab side. >>







    So far my plan is coming together, I've now got plenty more measurements, so I need to update my drawings.
    Next phase will be flashbanding ........








    See you in the next chapter.






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    Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
    And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
    The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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    Keep it coming mate!! Love to see what other people have done to their vans!! Trouble is I want to get out and change mine but I think my wife would leave me!!!


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    Hi, and welcome back,


    Today we're going to 'flashband' actually, that stage was done over four years ago ....... and it's still very much solid. No messy goo due to internal heat as I'd read in another post, it's fine to use and will last if done correctly. If you have deep pockets or like to waste your hard earned cash ...... you could always use 'Dynomat', but you'll never truly sound proof what is in essence a large tin box on wheels.


    For those of you who don't know what this stuff is and have never used it. It's lead based, with one surface very sticky, makes it ideal for application. I can only say that's it's well worth the ten quid a roll, I only used two rolls for the entire van. Don't confuse it with 'sound proofing' though, As it's not sound proofing, it's actually very effective at reducing the 'drumming' effect that large metal panels create in vehicles. All you need to do is cover the large panels, no need to overlap, or go right into the little gaps, as those areas won't be vibrating anyway.


    What it looks like with sticky back removed >>









    Here's how I did mine, good clean surface, free from grease or dust. Cut length required then apply pressure.
    I'm using using a sheet of paper to protect my roller, as this stuff is like tar on a hot day >>







    First panel done. You'll also notice a white piece in the middle. That's the original VW damping pad. You're basically doing the same, but making a better job of it ! once you've done your first panel, go round the outside and knock on the panel, it now makes a distinctive thud as opposed to the sound of an empty tin can. >>







    OK, now that's that entire side done >>







    Repeat on other side. You'll notice there's a lot of gaps between the strips of flashband, but that's all you need. Don't waste your money putting 2 or 3 layers on top of one another, like I've seen on other builds on this forum >>







    If theres one area you have to 'mate' the flashband, it's the wheel arches. As you're driving along stones and road debris bounce against your inner wheel arch. Doing this bit properly will reduce that sound dramatically >>







    It's so pliable, it's a joy to work with. Eventually I will be boxing out the wheel arches. But thats for another day. >>







    For now, we'll turn our attention back to the bulkhead. I now have all the necessary ribs for the bulkhead >>







    The positioning of your leisure battery is critical, as all my electrics such as the battery isolator, fuse box and heavy duty split charge system will be built into the bulkhead, it's only logical that the leisure battery go under the passenger seat, making it a short run to the bulkhead. Making all my cable runs very short. The orientation is also important, I put my positive terminal closest to the passenger door step. This avoids criss-crossing cables, looks much tidier also. >>







    So the battery doesn't move about while I'm driving, I just made a base with a cut-out that the battery sits in.
    Eventually I will box the whole thing up. >>









    To install the ribs for the bulkhead I'll be using pressure, you can't beat very tight fitting joins, and the help of CT 1'
    If you you don't know what that is ( I think it's similar to Sikaflex ) they use CT 1 in the building trade. It's got to be one of the toughest adhesives around. In fact, I've seen an advert where there clued a 6 inch breeze block to the side of a building with the stuff ! .....
    so no screws or nails required >>







    To make better contact, I'll be doing the same at the top as I have done at the foot >>









    OK, so that's enough for today. Next time we'll concentrate on the insulation.








    See you next time.














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    Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
    And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
    The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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    dude your post lol stop it and get on with them lights

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymarley View Post
    dude your post lol stop it and get on with them lights
    I know you mean that as a joke Jay, but berating me won't get the quad headlight prototype finished any quicker ! Standing in my workshop for 24 hours watching epoxy resin cure isn't my idea of fun. So I'll continue posting my updates






    As a cost saving exercise ( and lack of decent materials in Jersey ) I decided I would try my insulation differently.


    Here's how I did it ( bearing in mind I did it 5 years ago, and it's still fine ........ not damp as some people may think ). The use of rockwool is fine if done correctly, and you'll see why later.

    First, I brushed some Evo-Stick very thickly directly onto the metal panel of the van, when the adhesive goes a milky colour, I applied my pre-cut wool insulation, patting down very firmly. When I did a test patch a couple of weeks prior to this, I noticed that the adhesive went 'rubbery' when dry. This I thought would give me a base layer between the wool and the metal panel. >>







    Even wearing a respirator, a couple of hours in the back of my van, all doors open, I felt ill ....... I had to pack up and go home
    I can't believe some people sniff this stuff for pleasure >>






    As the general idea is to have an 'air gap' between the two panels, I had to use batons. I needed at least a 1cm gap for air circulation. The basic concept of any roof insulation, is the air gap. The aluminium bubble foil all you guys use is designed around this. My wood panelling, unfortunately I had to use 4mm MDF as I couldn't get good quality 4mm ply, has a sandwich layer of laminate flooring insulation and the wool / fibre glued to them. Edged off with adhesive aluminium tape. If the air is allowed to circulate ( breath ) condensation build up is reduced, you'll never totally eliminate condensation when sleeping in the back of your van anyway, ideally, you should always leave a window slightly open as well >>







    The first of my panels goes in. Currently they're only screwed into the wooden batons. I'm looking at an easy option where I can remove the panels easily. I read a nasty story a while back on a camping forum where a guy travelling around Europe was forced by customs officials to tear down the panelling in his converted van, as they needed to inspect behind the panels ! This won't be happening to me when I'm on my travels >>







    Putting batons around the wheel arch was interesting. All the batons are clued on with CT-1
    ....... it'll stick anything to anything, even if it's porous >>







    Next my other panel, I can't show you what the interior of the panel looks like, as I had a hard drive crash a while back, and a lot of photos got corrupted. >>







    I used an old coat hanger shaped around the wheel arch, then drew it out on a sheet of card for a template >>







    Just checking to see if I'm still square >>







    That's one complete side done. I'm not going to carpet the panels, as you can't get the stretchy stuff in black, and grey is so over done. So I'm going to use 'Acoustic Cloth' as it's black and there's not too many contours. Anyway, I'm trying to move away from grey, as another one of my projects will involve removing my dash board and all the plastics and spraying them black >>













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    Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
    And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
    The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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    great write up can't wait for the rest


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    Cheers guys ......... here's some more for you Stuart ......



    Now that I've done as much as I can in the back of the van for the time being, I'll turn my attention to the bulkhead. The general idea of creating a bulkhead has so many advantages, firstly it's a security measure, any A'Hole breaking into the front of the van can't access the rear of the van, secondly, in winter it's much easier to just heat the front of the van, also, if you're bedding-down in the rear it's much more cosy. And it also serves to house all my electrics. I'd unfortunately been on the receiving end of two break-ins with a few months ....... on the first break-in ( smashing my passenger side window ) they nicked my Pioneer headunit, then went into the back of the van and what they couldn't steal they just ransacked !



    For the ribs I used 12mm ply as it's very strong and doesn't tend to warp. They're fixed top and bottom with CT1 construction adhesive. I then began to panel the front of the bulkhead using 4mm MDF. I don't particularly like using this stuff, but it bends much easier than plywood, plus this area isn't prone to dampness so, should be ideal for the job.


    I tend to use different types of wood, as they all have their own characteristics and so react differently according to their uses. During the build I will also use pine and hardboard. The main goal here is to keep the weight down, without losing the rigidity as the bulkhead will also act as a security partition and to house all my electrics >>







    I decided to work from the top downward, as it was much easier making a cardboard template, then transferring it to the 4mm MDF. The entire bulkhead is secured at the top via 12mm plywood strips and glued into place using CT1, there are no screws at the top or bottom. It's held in place by the pressure of the ribs pushing upward. The rest of the structure ( panelling front and back ) will make the bulkhead even stronger. The screws you see are purely there to hold the panel in place on a temporary basis. The panels will eventually be glued into place and secured by panel pins. >>







    The bottom half of the bulkhead had to have a curve in it, to meet the contour of the rear of the seats. So I had to cut some lines 2mm deep with my plunge cutter to allow the MDF to bend a little. The 2 x 4 you see at the bottom, has three holes in it to allow me to run my battery cables through, as my split charge unit and battery isolator is built into the other side of the bulkhead. >>





    As you can see in this shot I already started insulating the inner side of the bulkhead, I had to do that first as I wanted to start on the wiring. You can also see the cut lines at the back of the lower MDF panel that helps it to curve. This side of the bulkhead will be a little awkward however, as it gives onto the sliding door. I couldn't make it flat, as the end of the bulkhead would obstruct the inner door handle. So it had to be curved ....... I have a cunning plan for that >>






    Here's how I got around the problem. Using pine, which is both strong and light weight, I cut some curved 'ribs'. At this point I knew I wouldn't be able to use MDF or plywood for this side of the bulkhead. I just wouldn't be able to bend those types of wood sufficiently to get that curve round the door area. I would have to use hardboard for that >>






    A closer look at the degree of bend required. This side isn't too bad, one curve right to left, vertically. But on the other side ( cab side ) not only do you have a vertical curve, but you also have the seat contour ! .......... head scratching moment. I thought how on earth was I going to pull this one off. I have great faith in my ability to solve any problem. So a few days deep in thought, and I came up with a solution ..... eureka moment, you could say. >>






    As I sat there pondering how I was going to go about shaping this area, and what materials to use, It came to me. I would use a technique boat builders have been using for centuries. .......... using strips of wood I could curve and twist it at the same time. I know of another technique that guitar builders use, but that would mean steaming MDF. not a good idea I thought. >>







    So I went ahead with the MDF as I had to stick with the same thickness wood, as my intention was to cover the bulkhead in black acoustic cloth, different thickness's would be seen through the cloth. So the first wood strip goes in, CT1 ( which hadn't failed me yet ) and panel pins, quickly clamped down into place. As MDF is quite strong, and has a tendency to 'spring back' when put under pressure. >>






    With the patience of a saint, I did a strip per day. And it worked a treat ! >>






    Actually, it's amazing just how strong thin wood can be. One of the annoyance's of driving sometimes, are the various types of squeaking you hear. I can assure you, there are no squeaks or vibrations coming from this wooden bulkhead. Up till now, I'm very happy with it. Quite a bit more to do though >>






    Now that I sussed out how to handle the most awkward of angles using wood as a material, there was no stopping me, I felt I could breach any gap ! The bent, curve and twist had to 'blend' into the bodywork. The screws are purely there to hold it in place till the glue sets, it's also panel pinned.
    The marked out area will be cut out to allow access to the sliding door lock. >>






    Now that the all important contours were well set. I had yet more bending of wood and shaping to do. In the form of the top rib. I'm sure you can imagine, there's an awful lot of measuring to do. If you get the inner curve wrong, it'll act as a sliding door shunt. I secured the wood strips as I had done previously. I'm now maybe into my third week of bulkhead building. >>






    As the top half of the bulkhead went without any dramas, I turned my attention to the back side of the bulkhead panelling. Panel all measured up, I proceeded to cut 2mm cut outs on the inside for the vertical bend. >>






    I worked from the curved side inward, if my measurements were slightly off, I could trim that down, as it would be the door area. I also strengthened the door access hole. >>






    It was now time for a little clearing up. So out with the rotary sanding tool to get rid of the ridges caused by the strips of wood. The next stage would be to cover the entire bulkhead with one sheet of black acoustic cloth, without overlaps >>






    As the bulkhead construction gets it's strength by being glued and nailed together, it's a 'solid' box if you like. It also contains all my electrics, so for future access should your electrics develop a fault, you need to make some 'service' hatches. As an ex computer engineer, photocopier and printer engineer, there's nothing worse that trying to fix something you can't get to. Even computer programmers write code with a 'back-door' should their programs fail.


    So here's the stage I'm at now. The bottom left is going to be a cupboard for my fire extinguisher. And I've done a bit more on my leisure battery electrics. I'll go into greater detail how I went about that in another post >>







    I constantly read other members build threads, ( they're great for inspiration ) but why are so many rushed !? Any van conversion is a labour of love ........ not a chore. I didn't give myself a deadline, I see this as a hobby ( as does uploading the images for your enjoyment ), so it doesn't matter if it takes me another 2 years to complete it. And I'm still enjoying my van, as it's my daily transport.


    I hope you all enjoy your conversions as much as I'm enjoying mine, and feel free to copy anything you see here. It's the main reason why I documented everything. And who knows, you may find something to your liking






    TURK
    Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
    And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
    The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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    Great stuff turk, dedicated to the cause as ever, am sure the finished article will be awesome wish I had a fraction of the time you have to put in to my vans

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    Thanks mate

    I did all this over 5 years ago mate ........ I was in full time employment back then. The good thing about working on your van during the summer months is, you can easily work outside on your van till gone 10 PM. So after a day in the office, I would spend the remainder of the evening enjoying myself working on my van. The rest is done at weekends ........ after all, that' what Saturdays and Sundays are for !

    Unless your idea of fun is lounging around all day watching garbage on TV !

    Personally, I'd much rather be creative



    Amazingly enough, now that I've taken very early retirement from full time employment ......... I have no time at all to be working on Lulu, as I'm up to my eye-browse with my headlight project.




    TURK
    Yeah, baby ! ........ new Multivan 151bhp AHY 'BigBlue' ; ) >> http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023689
    And ......... Lulu, T4 2.5 TDi short nose 126bhp > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276554
    The T4 Quad Headlight Project > http://www.vwt4forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249064

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